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Neography issue: Salicus with liquescens note after it connected to it #631

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jakubjelinek opened this issue Oct 1, 2015 · 5 comments
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@jakubjelinek
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In Nocturnale Romanum 2002, p. 17, I ran into a neumatic element that I've tried to type as:
non(efOhf>) (but that has the problem that the liquescens note is not connected with the previous note), or as non(efOh!f>) which looks almost right, except that the stem is too long and thus visible below the liquescens note. I don't have corresponding St. Gall neumes for this antiphon (maybe
it is in the Bud. 118 codex, but I don't have access to that: http://cantusdatabase.org/id/003697 ), so not sure exactly what is it in the original. The best shape would be like the non(efOh!f>) up to the top note, and then as if it is e.g. non(fhf>) - the top note and the last one. Would it be possible to add this?
Shall it be typeset for (efOhf>) ? If user doesn't want to connect them together, he can always type
(efOh/f>) ...

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eroux commented Oct 1, 2015

Could you make a scan of the neume in the Nocturnale Romanum?

@jakubjelinek
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Sure, here it is (though, I must say I like the ceciliae liquescens note shape much nicer than in this book):
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henryso commented Oct 1, 2015

Interesting. Salicus flexus I guess. This will be a whole family of glyphs. If 4.0 is to be released soon, I would postpone this to after 4.0. It could introduce a bunch of bugs.

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Ok, I think I can live with that efOh!f> for now. Perhaps it is gabc equivalent of nabc sa!cl> , sa1!cl> , sa1!cl-> or something similar. And indeed, there is sa!cl too, so another perhaps needed shape will be efOhf connected together.

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henryso commented Oct 2, 2015

Yes, a family would typically cover all liquescentia at the end. I would probably exclude initio debilis unless there is an example of such a thing.

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* develop:
  Addeds test and expectations for note-in-same-glyph episema height fix. Tests the fix for gregorio-project/gregorio#693.
  Updated expectations to match the fix for gregorio-project/gregorio#675.
  Added gabc-to-gabc tests and expectations.
  Added support for gabc-to-gabc tests.
  Updated expectations to match changes for gregorio-project/gregorio#670.
  Updated test for biginitial style deprecation. Corresponds with changes for gregorio-project/gregorio#632.
  Updated tests and expectations for initial-style deprecation. Corresponds with changes for gregorio-project/gregorio#632.
  Added support for per-gabc-output-test preamble files.
  Updated expectations to match changes for gregorio-project/gregorio#632.
  Added a test for the forced initial hyphen. Corresponds with gregorio-project/gregorio#656. Tests the fix for gregorio-project/gregorio#653.
  Added tests and expectations corresponding to gregorio-project/gregorio#636. This tests the implementation of gregorio-project/gregorio#631.
rpspringuel added a commit to rpspringuel/gregorio that referenced this issue Dec 9, 2015
* develop:
  Adding Known Bugs to CHANGELOG
  Making Release
  Called gregorio_strdup instead of strdup.
  Applied fixes suggested by Karl Berry for integration into TeX Live.
  Fixed incorrect detection of note-in-same-glyph for episema height adjustment. Fixes gregorio-project#693.
  Spelling error in CHANGELOG
  Typo in example
  Corrected end-of-word detection when there is no whitespace at end-of-file. Fixes gregorio-project#675.
  Improved the display of enum values in gabc output error messages.
  Modified gabc and dump writers to write only non-deprecated headers. Fixes gregorio-project#670.
  Corrected markdown formatting. Part of the implementation for gregorio-project#632.
  Added \MessageBreak to break up the long message for readability in the log. Fixed missing "else" case in IfStrEq.  Part of the implementation for gregorio-project#632.
  Added change log and upgrade documentation for this change. Part of the implementation for gregorio-project#632.
  Deprecated \gre@style@biginitial. Part of the implementation for gregorio-project#632.
  Added change log with link to gregorio-project#631.
  Deprecated gabc initial-style header. Part of the implementation for gregorio-project#632.
  Documented new and renamed macros. Part of the implementation for gregorio-project#632.
  Refactored first syllable output to allow TeX-controlled initial style. Part of the implementation for gregorio-project#632.
  Corrected escape of hash sign in documentation.
  Implemented salicus flexus glyphs.  Fixes gregorio-project#631.
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