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Somfy keytis #388

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goanes opened this issue May 28, 2024 · 39 comments
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Somfy keytis #388

goanes opened this issue May 28, 2024 · 39 comments

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@goanes
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goanes commented May 28, 2024

Describe you new feature you'd like

Hi
I have a gateway door witch is a somfy keytis 2 ns rts.
I wondering if I can use this device to open/stop/close the gateway door.
If it is possible, is there a specific procedure to follow?
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@rstrouse
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I believe this should work just fine although I do not have one. The keytis is only the remote the motor you are controlling will have specific pairing instructions.

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goanes commented Jun 14, 2024

Hi rstrouse

I finnaly had spare time to try pairing ESPSomfyRTS with the gate Somfy RTS.
So here is how I pair a new remote control (there is no pairing buton)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9WnXJ3oaSA

So I have try to do it at the same time with ESPSomfyRTS and the remote control.
Unfortunaly I did not suceed doing it.

If you have any idea to move on it will be nice.

May I ask another question.
I use another remote not from somfy (but a remote bought on aliexpress.)
(https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005006724253172.html?spm=a2g0o.tm1000004601.d0.1.3de75610lr93BU&sourceType=561&pvid=1e1aaaf2-9073-41aa-9e6b-0e1032b55c6e&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22ship_from%22:%22CN%22,%22sku_id%22:%2212000038097472125%22%7D&scm=1007.28480.379202.0&scm-url=1007.28480.379202.0&scm_id=1007.28480.379202.0&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%21%E2%82%AC%2022%2C06%21%E2%82%AC%208%2C09%21%21%21168.13%2161.68%21%40211b80e117183677286768954ef99e%2112000038097472125%21gsd%21FR%21184364220%21&channel=sd&aecmd=true)

Is there a way to "copy" it and reproduce the RF Code ?

@rstrouse
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Which gate motor/controller do you have?

You will likely need to use the same button commands as you are using when pairing the remote. All of those button combinations are available on the virtual remote tab but you should use the same button commands on the remote and watch the log in ESPSomfy RTS to capture the frames. When finished press the copy button and paste the sequence here.

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Just to clarify, it probably uses some combination of the buttons to pair. Also, some of these motors allow you to turn on and off the ability to connect 3-button remotes. If I can get a model number on the motor I may be able to guide you on how to get this paired up and operating.

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goanes commented Jun 16, 2024 via email •
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Ok so it appears that the keytis is sending a Toggle command. I suspect based on what I see in the instructions (I could only find it in French) it uses a weaker antenna when in pairing mode so you need to get the device close into the area for pairing. You will need to get your ESPSomfy RTS device antenna close to the place where you put the keytis when pairing.

First press the button on the motor to put it into pairing mode. Pairing mode will be indicated by a red light on the motor.
Then place your ESPSomfy RTS near the location where you place the remote when pairing.

Finally, in the ESPSomfy RTS virtual remote select the shade you configured for the gate from the dropdown and press the Toggle button. It should be paired at that point.

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goanes commented Jun 17, 2024

Hi rstrouse

I did what you recommanded and it finnaly work.
I put here a little procedure of what I did. I think it may help other people.

I first create a new room then a new shade.
I have to change on the shade tab the bit from 56 bits to 80 bits (and save).
I put the ESPSomfy RTS device (antenna) on the somfy gateway motor device (I don't have any button on it.)
Then I took the virtual remote tab and I did as I was on the real keytis remote.
That's mean the TOGGLE button. I push long the1st time then the gateway device jump to the pairing mode (LED RADIO turn on), I then push TOGGLE again the LED RADIO is still ON and the LED "Sequential auto closing" is ON and finaly, I push TOGGLE again "RAZ" LED is blinking then all LED is turning OFF.
That's it.

Then I push toggle again to test if it is working. and YES it did ... so happy.

Thank you again rstrouse for this wonderfull tool.

I would recommand / request to change the UP/MY/DOWN button by the TOGGLE button as is it a gateway (or have the possibility to choose).
and the same thing happen on home assistant integration (no toggle button and only up/my/down button).

Thank again for your help (y)

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goanes commented Jun 17, 2024

I just find the the Garage 1 button which is my case. so that is fine on the ESPSomfy RTS Web interface.
But on Home assistance. the entity did not change to a toggle.

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rstrouse commented Jun 17, 2024 •
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But on Home assistance. the entity did not change to a toggle.

Reload the integration. I think that even though there is a toggle going on it is smart enough to handle open and closed.

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goanes commented Jun 17, 2024 via email

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Did you try the entity to see if it effectively opens/closes the door? Most of those motors digest the up/down/my commands just fine. If not I will see if there is a cover entity that matches the command buttons.

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goanes commented Jun 17, 2024 via email

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Just to be sure when you use the virtual remote, if the gate is closing and you press the toggle button does it reverse direction?

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goanes commented Jun 18, 2024 •
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Yes I only use 1 button for close and for open.
for exemple,

  1. if the gate is close...
    1 push on toggle will open the gate
    another push on toggle (while opening) will stop the gate
    another push on toggle will close the gate

  2. in your use case:
    when the gate is closing, another push on toggle will stop the gate . another push on toggle will open the gate .

  3. if the gate is close... 1 push on toggle will open the gate. when fully open. 1 push on toggle will close the gate. when fully close, 1 push on toggle will open the gate

hope it is clear.
any other key is not working

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I will be posting an update to the Home Assistant component next week but in the meantime you can update to the pre-release of v2.4.5 firmware (it will be the last item under the GitHub update dropdown). This will now allow you to select any of the 1 button gate options for the shade type and it will operate as described above.

If I find some time I may get to the HA component earlier.

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v2.4.5 firmware has been released as well as the v2.4.5 integration for HA. This should allow you to operate this gate as a 1 button gate type (left, right, or center). I had to do some tango dancing with HA to make it work correctly so when in movement only the stop button will be available. Once it reaches either endpoint only the appropriate button will be available. If it does not know the current state it will show both open and close but only the proper one will work.

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goanes commented Jun 21, 2024 via email

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goanes commented Jun 21, 2024 via email

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goanes commented Jun 25, 2024 via email

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A backup file would be great.

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goanes commented Jun 25, 2024 via email

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Unfortunately, your backup file did not make it into the post. However, did you go back in and change the type to one of the 1 button gate types?

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Oh I think I understand. Unfortunately the command is just a toggle so ESPSomfy has no idea of what the starting position is. To fix this make a note of where ESPSomfy thinks the position should be then unplug it and move the gate to the position. Then plug ESPSomfy back in.

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goanes commented Jun 26, 2024 via email

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Unfortunately, if you are using a mobile phone the attachments will be removed from your post. Copy/Paste here will work just fine.

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goanes commented Jun 28, 2024

Hi
here is the file:
ESPSomfyRTS 2024-06-26T08_28_08.zip

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The only manual for the Evolvia I could find was in French. From the looks of it, it appears that if you pair using the up button and not the toggle button it will then use the 3 button mode but I cannot really read the instructions.
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However, if you select one of the 1-button gate options that I added for you then it will operate just like your remote but still keep track of the positions. Keep in mind that the same command is sent to open, close, and stop when the motor only listens for a toggle command (which is what keytis outputs).

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goanes commented Jul 2, 2024

Hi rstrouse
I will try that with the up button on the virtual remote with a new "cover-gate".
but my problem is not about that.

for me the pairing of the gate is ok and is working find.
I can close and open very well the gate with your tool.

I have also pair 3 other covers as you see in my backup file.

My problem is really strange I think.
When I use any up button cover, it is opening the corresponding cover (which is good) but it is also opening the gate (which it is not good) and I don't understand why.
it is cleary not the correct beaviour

what do you think about my issue ?

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rstrouse commented Jul 2, 2024

Is it physically opening the gate or is it just reflecting that in the ESPSomfy RTS UI? If it is physically opening the gate then the pairing mode was open on the gate when you were pairing the roller shades. I cannot read the documentation as my French is not nearly as good as your English.

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goanes commented Jul 2, 2024 via email

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rstrouse commented Jul 3, 2024

I am in the US. There is no chance that it is sending more than one signal. Not even the groups do that. If the motor has the address in its memory it will process the frame.

https://service.somfy.com/downloads/fr_v5/5063223dnotice_evolvia.pdf

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@goanes did you get your pairing sorted out?

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goanes commented Jul 11, 2024 via email

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rstrouse commented Jul 11, 2024 •
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  1. It seems I can not synch more than one

Do you mean more than one remote to the gateway? That doesn't make any sense as that would limit the entry to only one vehicle remote or only one pedestrian with the specific remote. Typically each remote including ESPSomfy RTS has a unique address that is paired wit the motor.

  1. is it possible to have a log of monitoring a rts device with a real remote or with a virtual remote.

You can create another ESPSomfy RTS device that simply monitors traffic or use your existing one. When the config pages are open it will display all traffic from any RTS signal. Simply click on the Radio section and select the log tab.

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goanes commented Jul 16, 2024

Hi
sorry for the delay
for the question 1:
please see the screen shoot
Capture d’écran 2024-07-16 100218
Currently I can not add more the one remote.
Is it a limitation ?

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No you can link up to 7 remotes per motor. Click the link remote button again and it will link any time it hears a unique address.

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Also if this is a gate you can now select any of the gate 1-button types. You can switch this at any time by selecting it from the drop-down.

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I am going to close this as I believe our Keytis functionality is working now.

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goanes commented Aug 21, 2024

Hi
I was on holliday.
Thank you again for your support.

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