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FAQ on update-alternatives in Ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04 #2089

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amigalemming opened this issue Apr 16, 2019 · 17 comments
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FAQ on update-alternatives in Ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04 #2089

amigalemming opened this issue Apr 16, 2019 · 17 comments

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@amigalemming
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The FAQ may be outdated for Ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04. The command for registration of an alternative is --install not --add and liblapack.so.3 is not a slave of libblas.so.3. Thus you need two --install invocations.

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brada4 commented Apr 16, 2019

It is slave configuration still after those years. OpenBLAS Lapack part calls OpenBLAS BLAS internals, thus it will not work with other libblas.so.3
I edited the other part and updated title from distrowatch.

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brada4 commented Apr 16, 2019

Actually on modern ubuntu there is cblas.so.3 without wrapper that we could replace but cannot, on some others liblapacke.so.3 again same.... I wrote it just to make instant win in common case as for F.A.Q.

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amigalemming commented Apr 16, 2019 via email

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brada4 commented Apr 16, 2019

It is a shortcoming of update to update-alternatives.
You can take out that second line from FAQ yourself. Probably worth editing that only netlib lapack will be usable from then on.

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amigalemming commented Apr 16, 2019 via email

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brada4 commented Apr 16, 2019

Best is to take .so and .pc files from reference netlib blas, then you can still swap runtime library with anything of choosing.
i.e. you change only *.so.3 libraries for ld.so, while gcc and pkgconfig picks *.so and defailt *.pc file.

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brada4 commented Apr 16, 2019

I have looked at 18.04, library names are weird as to say softly. If you have a good idea how to make it work on ubuntu-debian-mint-mxlinux and opensuse, and not make too long you are welcome, I have no easy idea how to plant openblas manua build in Ubuntu 18LTS :-(

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A search for the error message leads to old bugs like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ri/+bug/876097 where it is suggested that running update-alternatives --remove on the affected component first may be used to work around this problem. Not sure if this applies to the problem at hand here, but this blog entry from 2015 https://aweirdimagination.net/2015/03/27/fixing-broken-alternatives/ - which actually concerns setting up alternatives entries for liblapack - seems to concur. Furthermore it suggests that the problem is caused by dangling links to files that have already
been removed on disk but not deleted from the alternatives file (also https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=776634).

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brada4 commented Apr 18, 2019

I have spotted same back when adding faq entry. Basically I install libblas-dev so that one set of valid links is present. Now it is not libblas.so.3, but libblas.so.3-some-architecture-string phew.
Probably one can set master/slave confs in an empty place but it is longer than faq expects and nothing like 1-minute fix

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martin-frbg commented Apr 18, 2019

With the architecture-dependent part worse than the usual x86_64-llinux-gnu ? That would seem very impractical...

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brada4 commented Apr 18, 2019

It is just the usual one, but same copypasta will not work for 16.04 nor for aarch64

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Wouldn't that be enough to give those (relatively few?) on aarch64 an idea what to do ? I assume they would be used to mentally replacing x86_64 with aarch64 in many other hints and instructions. Certainly better than just stating "it has become much too complicated to explain here"... (What is different on 16.04 ? Something simple like a version number, or is there more to it ? I am not familiar with Ubuntu)

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brada4 commented Apr 19, 2019

in 16.04 alternative is called (/usr/lib/)libblas.so.3, in 18.04 t is called libblas.so.3.host-triplet and the target symlink is /usr/lib/host-triplet/libblas.so.3
Probably one paragraph on how to detect if it is one or another naming scheme

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"In recent versions of the distributions, the installation path for the libraries has been changed to include the name of the host architecture, like /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/blas/libblas.so.3 . Use update-alternatives --display libblas.so.3 to find out what layout your system has." Would this do ?

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brada4 commented Apr 24, 2019

bash-completion is needed to complete the line into libblas.so.3-tr-ip-le
but yes, it has all keys inside.
I see also they make massive link group with blas.pc libblas.so libblas.a cblas.h which could be atlas or old openblas, yielding semi-broken dynamic executables.

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@amigalemming any update on the master-slave dilemma ? (Is it possible that the alternatives links on your system are outdated or dangling symlinks due to earlier changes, or is this a fresh, unmodified installation of Ubuntu ?)

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brada4 commented Apr 29, 2019

It is if you install (Ubuntu) libblas and liblapack they are "independent" , in this case we cannot safely use openblas as source of lapack, as this needs it to be BLAS too bat that cannot be assured/enforced. Same applies to atlas and mkl, I dunno if it is good to just give one libblas (probaby even building without lapacks)

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