DefaultBox keeps resurrecting itself (unlike Classic)

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Describe what you noticed and did

The DefaultBox keeps coming back - even if you've got other boxes and deleted DefaultBox on purpose.

Reproduction steps:

• Start with fresh Sandboxie Plus
• Create a couple of sandboxes
• Remove DefaultBox

• Shut down Sandboxie from tray menu

• Restart Sandboxie
  -> DefaultBox resurrects itself!

How often did you encounter it so far?

Always, if following reproduction steps

Affected program

Not relevant

Download link

Not relevant

Where is the program located?

Not relevant to my request.

Expected behavior

Having a DefaultBox is a good thing for beginners, who just installed Sandboxie so that they may get going straight away.
But if you already have a couple of sandboxes and deleted the DefaultBox on purpose, it should not be created anew each time you open the main Sandboxie window.

Possible solution: Check if at least 1 sandbox exists. If true, do not create a new DefaultBox.

PS: Classic handles this correctly and doesn't resurrect DefaultBox if you got other sandboxes.

What is your Windows edition and version?

Windows 10 Pro 21H2 64-bit

In which Windows account you have this problem?

Not relevant to my request.

Please mention any installed security software

Microsoft Defender

What version of Sandboxie are you running?

Sandboxie Plus 1.5.2

Is it a new installation of Sandboxie?

I recently did a new clean installation.

Is it a regression?

No response

In which sandbox type you have this problem?

Not relevant to my request.

Can you reproduce this problem on an empty sandbox?

Not relevant to my request.

Did you previously enable some security policy settings outside Sandboxie?

No response

Crash dump

No response

Trace log

No response

Sandboxie.ini configuration

No response

[offhub]

Atm there is no way to delete DefaultBox, but you can disable it.
[DefaultBox]
Enabled=n

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Ah, thanks for the tip.
Somehow Classic manages to handle this as expected.
When I deleted DefaultBox in Classic, it didn't come back.

[APMichael]

This is an intended behavior:

• when DefaultBox is not found by the SandMan UI, it will be recreated
  https://github.com/sandboxie-plus/Sandboxie/releases/tag/0.6.5

You just have to edit the ini and change the line Enabled=y to Enabled=n. (As offhub had already written.)

[ghost]

It could make some sense if sbie config file didnt exist when user installed it for the first time. Otherwise I dont see any point

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Yes, it's useful for starters or people who have 0 sandboxes.
But it shouldn't be coming back again and again if you have set up a couple custom boxes and want it gone.

[paradoxicallist]

Yes, it's useful for starters or people who have 0 sandboxes. But it shouldn't be coming back again and again if you have set up a couple custom boxes and want it gone.

Fwiw, I'd like to say I concur with this idea. I hate when Default Box resurrects itself.

[bastik-1001]

There is a function that seems to reply on the DefaultBox being present.

The good thing is, one can change the settings of DefaultBox, without those being altered, as far as I encountered. One may just not use it, if custom boxes fulfill the needs instead.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Good catch. I was gonna write about that next.

IMHO there should be a way to declare one box to be your standard go-to box in the 'Run Sandboxed' menu.

E.g. I got 2 default boxes. One without internet access (which I always try to use first) and one with internet access (if the sandboxed program refuses to work or requires internet by design).

[typpos]

Duplicate of #487 ? Also discussed in #359 item 12.

The DefaultBox is required because some features depend on it. For example:

"C:\Program Files\Sandboxie-Plus\Start.exe"  notepad.exe

References in code:

• https://github.com/sandboxie-plus/Sandboxie/search?l=C%2B%2B&q=defaultbox&type=code
• https://github.com/sandboxie-plus/Sandboxie/search?q=m_DefaultBox&type=code

[ghost]

Ok, so maybe we should have custom variable DefaultBoxName=YourCustomDefaultBox

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Yeah, or some setting where you can declare one box to be your Number 1.
There already exists an option to rearrange the order.
So the sandbox on top of the list = Primary Box.

[gettysburg]

I would also appreciate an option to rename the default, auto-created Sandbox.

[DavidXanatos]

With regard to an other feature request https://github.com/sandboxie-plus/Sandboxie/discussions/2157 how about adding said perhaps its time to add the discussed name alias feature,
Allowing to set a display name of a sandbox while leaving the actual name as is,
this way the "DefaultBox" could be renamed to whatever without actually renaming it hence without running into it being re created.

On the other hand a Config value to set the name of DefaultBox sounds also nice.

[DavidXanatos]

in next build it will be possible to set a custom sandbox as the default box

[gettysburg]

it will be possible to set a custom sandbox as the default box

Great solution, thank you for your time and work.

[paradoxicallist]

in next build it will be possible to set a custom sandbox as the default box

How is this done cause I tried yesterday renaming DefaultBox to a different name next I copy ini lines from another box to this new one, next restarted the computer and DefaultBox resurrected.

[DavidXanatos]

there will be a setting in the globa section holding the name of the designated DefaultBox

[offhub]

After Sandboxie-Plus 1.6.1

From UI:

Options > Global Settings > Advanced Config > Sandbox Config > Default sandbox: <Select from the dropdown menu>

From INI:

[GlobalSettings]
.
.
.
DefaultBox=SelectedDefaultBox

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

@offhub @paradoxicallist I don't think it's in yet. At least it isn't mentioned in the 1.6.1 changelog.

[DavidXanatos]

you need to wait for 1.6.1b or later