Node.js Foundation Modules Team Meeting 2018-08-01

[MylesBorins]

Time

UTC Wed 01-Aug-2018 19:00 (07:00 PM):

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Links

• Minutes Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11oDyvFSnPp3mkyvr8SwRQTKo4aEu9Z0khIiQKPdT1Yk/edit?usp=sharing
• Previous Minutes Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zruFPTN9dIpvSEkStxo4fkPenXTdhsLEVkcmoKlVmOA/edit

Agenda

Extracted from modules-agenda labelled issues and pull requests from the nodejs org prior to the meeting.

Approving PRs (2 Minute Timebox)

• Add Sendil Kumar as an observer #159

Update on Progress (10 Minute Timebox)

• Have presentation on loaders. #135
  • 3 minute timebox
• Create Terminology.md #158
  • 3 minute timebox
• Developer Survey #85
  • 3 minute timebox

Discussion (45 Minute Timebox)

• Proposals for configuring parse goals of files in --experimental-modules #160
  • 10 minute timebox
• Features adjustments and grouping #156
  • 10 minute timebox
• ESM in .js files proposals #150
  • 10 minute timebox
• transparent-or-not interop #90
  • 15 minute Timbox

Invited

• Modules team: @nodejs/modules

Notes

The agenda comes from issues labelled with modules-agenda across all of the repositories in the nodejs org. Please label any additional issues that should be on the agenda before the meeting starts.

Joining the meeting

• link for participants: https://zoom.us/j/656987750
• For those who just want to watch: https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live

[GeoffreyBooth]

FYI #150 and #160 are connected, we should discuss them together.

[Fishrock123]

Ok, I dug it up. From the meeting, my note on the ancient TSC thing I brought up:

Here is the TSC meeting from February 2017 where I brought up concerns raised by folks that teach JavaScript:
https://github.com/nodejs/CTC/blob/master/meetings/2017-02-01.md (the minutes note is small)
The meeting recording link there is actually wrong, so here is the link with the correct timestamp for when I bring this up: https://youtu.be/8Snc5lh0VZQ?t=23m29s

The tl;dr was:

• require returning a promise that is not explicitly exported is troublesome
• esm's largest benefit to newcomers is likely the ability to deal with circular deps

Unfortunately I can't find my exact notes of the meeting that I had with these stakeholders. I have updated the minutes with these links accordingly.