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reflect: improve container attributes #7317
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Information about the special trait-like attributes needs to be prominent and clear in the docs for the derive macro, or the syntax needs to be more distinct.
I agree with the change, but the UX is quite confusing with some traits being capitalized and others seemingly not.
Still need to give a proper review, but I'm wondering if— while we're changing this up anyways— we could separate out the type data registrations from everything else. As we start to add more container attributes (e.g. It might be nice to break it up like:
Thoughts? |
Hmm this might make sense from an implementation perspective, but from a user perspective I would find this pretty confusing. We train people to think "when I want reflected TraitX behaviors, write What is the specific real world confusion we're solving here? Ex: is it that people are reaching for |
Hm, true. I think the difficulty comes when we want to provide customization for these attributes. All of these allow users to specify custom implementations like We could optimize for users not needing to specify custom trait functions for these types and keep things as is.
Additionally, these aren't strictly "internal implementations" in the sense that the user doesn't ever need to be fully aware of them. This is required knowledge if one wishes to use the affected At this point in time, I'm not too sure which way is the best to move forward. As much as I'd like to change these attributes for consistency with the field attributes, the user-facing argument is a good one. I'd be curious to hear thoughts from others on the matter, especially those unfamiliar with reflection. Is it unintuitive to have a few traits that control |
Not yet. But on that note, maybe we should build a mechanism for passing in parameters to constructors of "true" type data? Then this could still "feel" unified.
Agreed, but I would argue these are still "reflect configuration/behaviors associated with a specific trait (Hash, PartialEq, etc)".
I feel pretty strongly that we should use "reflect trait syntax" for these cases (while trying to unify behaviors, syntax, and code paths to the maximum extent that makes sense). My gut reaction to seeing the new syntax is "this is weird and confusing" (both as a user of Bevy and as an informed developer of it). I think ideologically the current trait syntax makes sense. We are still reflecting a specific trait/behavior, it just manifests slightly differently. In the context of trait "type data" (which adds additional behaviors and data on top of exposing the trait itself), I think something like a "Hash behavior override" fits in perfectly. Changing the syntax has multiple negative impacts:
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Objective
#[reflect(Debug, PartialEq, Hash, Default)]
.#[reflect(my_crate::foo::MyTrait)]
.Solution
#[reflect(Default)]
.#[reflect(debug, partial_eq, hash)]
to make obvious the distinction between normal and "special" idents.#[reflect(Hash(my_hash_fn))]
is now#[reflect(hash = "my_hash_fn")]
.#[reflect]
attributes.Changelog
#[reflect(Debug, PartialEq, Hash, Default)]
syntax with#[reflect(debug, partial_eq, hash)]
syntax.Migration Guide
#[reflect(Debug, PartialEq, Hash, Default)]
syntax with#[reflect(debug, partial_eq, hash)]
syntax.FromReflect::from_reflect
implementations no longer can create a value from a partial set of fields if it implements default. All fields are required.