Meeting 2023-12-13

[lheckemann]

General business

Present in the meeting: @infinisil @tomberek @lheckemann @edolstra @kevincox

• Steering committee rotation, no nominations yet for new members in https://discourse.nixos.org/t/rfc-steering-committee-rotation-2023-24/36197

  • @infinisil: Should this be a paid position? It's just laborious work

    • @edolstra: Yeah, but then also e.g. the NixOS release managers should be paid, much more laborious
    • Could open an issue for a funding request on the foundation issue board

  • @tomberek; Indicate that if people want the process working, we need people to do it

  • @lheckemann: Lots of busy work, could automate more, get funding to automate more?

  • @infinisil: Shrink the steering committee to just 3 people? Need 2 for the meeting

    • Some nods
    • Picking shepherds is delegating the authority of saying when a change is okay. Is that still trusted with fewer people?

  • @edolstra: Picking the shepherds can't be automated

    • @infinisil: But also never really been a controversial topic
    • Automate even that?

  • @tomberek: What can we do to improve the process?

  • Reach out more on other channels, discourse ping, marketing team, twitter, mastodon

  • Nominate people ourselves

  • @infinisil pinged the discourse thread: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/rfc-steering-committee-rotation-2023-24/36197/2?u=infinisil

  • @tomberek will reach out to the marketing team to advertise this more

• @infinisil will ping a Discourse admin to delete the Discourse group for the steering committee: https://discourse.nixos.org/g/rfc-steering

  • It's outdated and not needed anymore, now that the RFC announcements category is open for anybody to post in

• Ideas regarding RFC funding:

  • Fund steering committee
  • Fund a notar for meetings
  • Fund somebody to organise meetings, leader

Unlabelled and New RFCs

None

RFCs Open for Nominations

• RFC 163: Portable Service Layer
  • Team: roberth, AndersonTorres (leader), ehmry, Animeshz, IreneKnapp
• RFC 165: Bootspec v2
  • Nominations:
    • Accepted: JulienMalka, lheckemann
    • Awaiting response: govanify, 06kellyjac, hesiod, amjoseph-nixpkgs
      Linus will ping to ask for responses.
• RFC 166: Nix formatting, take two
  • Shepherd team: das_j, tomberek, 0x4A6F, infinisil (leader)
  • Leader is only a formality since they're meeting every 2 weeks anyway

RFCs in Discussion

• RFC 132: Meson Builds Nix
  • Asking shepherd team for update
• RFC 143: Nix Store ACLs
  • Fairly recent meeting, no action required
• RFC 146: Meta.Categories, not Filesystem Directory Trees
  • Discussion ongoing
• RFC 152: local-overlay store
  • Call for shepherd update, some concerns that haven't really been responded to

RFCs in FCP

None

Leader of next meeting

We will skip the meeting on 2023-12-27 due to the holiday period.

@infinisil will lead the next meeting on 2024-01-10